
Dak Hallow
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Posted - 2011.06.16 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zulu Hello all.
At the risk of sounding corporate-y, I have to say Iĉm impressed and greatful for the amount of passion shown in this thread. [stuff] It is in no way the purpose of the program to deter or make money off 3rd party development. The core purpose is simply to have control our IP and brand and have a contract in place so we can have some form of regulation on apps and services that use the EVE name and EVE resources (API). [stuff] As always, your feedback is not only welcomed but in fact essential to us. Thank you.
Arnar Hrafn Gylfason Senior Producer of EVE Online
For the first and last statement. Thanks for your proactive concern with the news of this spanning 35+pages. Just make sure you don't patronize us as a community. The benefit of the doubt should be and is given, but if you're going to listen, listen.
As a business owner, I can completely understand wanting to control a little bit of the brand that's out there. Having a system in which developers CAN make money for their efforts is a nice gesture. As updated notes in the devblog have asserted that possibly accepting ISK donations would exempt you from the yearly fee, this is a nice touch. If I created an app for EVE, and I could then receive isk for it to do whatever, that would incentivise me. It's essentially paying me $15 a month for developing the program/app/etc. That won't totally cover costs in all cases, but this is much better than "We're charging everyone who's paying out their own time and money just to make a free product."
Originally by: Gurgeh Murat
[stuff] How many people would have quit eve fairly early on if their capsuleer career hadnt been aided by evemon, or evehq, or eft. Never mind the more esoteric apps like mentat. How many? 1000? 10000? [more stuff]
Honestly these Apps (specifically EVEMon and EFT for me) are what kept me in the game. The expansiveness of EVE is fantastic. The sheer number of calculations and related programming needed to come up with all the things like turret tracking down to explosion velocity is staggering and impressive. Keep in mind: I do know people that I've tried to get into the game who won't touch EVE because they're so "lost" on all the millions of different options (what makes EVE the better MMO, imo). Things like EFT and EVEMon should have been in game resources from VERY early on.
I started this game without EVEMon and EFT and was so overwhelmed by the choices that I had quit. I found EFT and subsequently EVEMon and began playing again, but only because I could organize and plan. I had all sorts of skill points in the wrong spots for even flying a Frigate. I had invested the precious little isk you start out with in crap that wasn't going to help me. I harbor no ill notions about that as I do actually create an income now, but that was after I had quit wasting a couple million isk on poor ship fittings and insufficient characters who were "lost" sp-wise.
All this information to say, don't cut the legs out from under vital programs that keep this game playable. I don't think you could jump in and keep all the information and choices straight without some 3rd party apps/programs and those do cost the developers money. However, I do understand licensing. One could make a business out of the soliciting of vital information EVE needs that is _not provided_ in-game. I understand that you lawfully can't make money off the intellectual property of other people. I however would loathe paying for a vital service like EVEMon/EVEHQ, EFT, and perhaps others. Charging ISK for your apps doesn't seem outlandish (for those who want to charge).
Thanks to the devs for Eve-Central, Battleclinic, EVEMon, EVEHQ, and EFT (the only ones Ive used). Excellent programs/sites. Thanks for making them free to all. The information is greatly appreciated.
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